I thought that you might enjoy a discussion that my wife, Brigit, had with Tom on Facebook. The question is: Why the ego, or what’s the use for the ego? Notice how clear Brigit is when she talks about awakening.
How can you destroy the ego?
Brigit wrote:
By seeing that the ego is unreal. If you let go of all definitions of yourself, the Truth of the unreality of the ego shines forth on its own. To recognize when you define yourself, just recognize when something feels limiting or uncomfortable, and let it go.
Then the Truth that you cannot be described in words or thoughts, that you are not even a separate entity, shines forth. Who we really are, can be called the "Source of Love". That's the closest description that can be given to what is indescribable.
Don't try to see the Truth with your mind. That would be like trying to see the sun with a flashlight. But the sun can be seen by its own light. Who we really are can be seen by the light of Love.
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Tom wrote:
Two things in response to your posting if I may:
One: "By seeing that the ego is unreal."
The ego is just a piece of software, a self-reflexive concept with a function related to survival. Although not ultimately true, it has relative truth and function to serve consciousness when we let it take a supporting role instead of center stage...when the software gets updated, so to speak.
Two: "To recognize when you define yourself, just recognize when something feels limiting or uncomfortable, and let it go."
When something is uncomfortable, feel it first. If you try to let go of the discomfort before it has delivered its message, it can easily become spiritual up-leveling - using spirituality as a technique to feel better.
I find it useful that when there is something uncomfortable, feel it first and then look at the belief that is at the core. And there you will see as you have said, where you are defining and limiting yourself.
This kind of self limitation is perfectly normal and innocent. It continues until we are willing to embrace the limitations of form and find the formless hiding there in plain sight!
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Brigit wrote:
Thanks for your reply!
One: However the ego is unreal and therefore cannot serve anything, such as survival. The ego is just thoughts and we are aware of these thoughts, whereas the computer is not aware. Sometimes there appears to be survival, and sometimes not. Only when we project our existence onto the ego are we are concerned about its survival. The real survival is seeing the Truth that we are just the awareness.
Two: Yes, when something feels uncomfortable, recognize it. When you recognize something, you are the seer and not what you see. So you are free to look at it in great detail and see what you are not and let it go. Then also see the belief that is at the core. It is probably the idea that there is something wrong with you or that there is something wrong with the world. Just let go of the belief that there is anything wrong and all your beliefs crumble.
Then the truth that all your beliefs about yourself or the world are just thoughts, will shine forth. You will know yourself by yourself. It is different than you think it is, because it is closer than all thoughts.
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Tom wrote:
On ego - what I mean is that in a relative sense, the function of the self-referencing in the mind which we call the ego, helps to preserve the body-mind for the human mammal. That is it's primary biological function. From the perspective of awareness, the ego is a temporary artificial construct, like your zip code. It helps to get your mail delivered. I am not suggesting in any way that it is true.
When this self-concept is imbued with identity, it is a restrictive structure in the flow of life and of consciousness. But then, life depends on the restriction of flow in order to exist. The flow of energy across a temporary structure is how the human body turns oxygen into fuel. Life is a way for consciousness to become self-aware in more and more ways.
Consciousness doesn't feel restricted by the ego. The personality is what longs for release from its own structures.
When one can sit with a close friend, a lover - or your sister who is dying and know that it isn't real at the same time the heart in all its brokenness is embraced, that is something.
In your second point - for many of my clients, recognizing that they are the seer and different from their inner structures, is not enough for their structures to evaporate. As long as consciousness wants these forms, we will have inner structures - temporary movements in consciousness that support life.
When structures don't seem to serve our deeper intention for complete liberation, they need to be seen, felt and known, with head, heart and gut. Then the structures that have served us and our ancestors can be updated to here and now.
Embodying awakening is a different task from awakening. Awakening is the first step, not the last step.
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Brigit wrote:
Thank you for continuing this conversation! If I read you right, you see the ego as serving the biological function of preserving the body of the person by causing the person to use it as a reference. You see it as a device like a telephone switch that helps people to survive as well as communicate and connect.
However, I see the ego as a construct that artificially limits our experience of life and of our self. It is just an assumption with no real function at all. First we project the ego out of our sense of reality, and then we take our self to be separate and limited. That’s why we feel that we have to preserve or defend our self.
But the sense of reality and connection actually comes from what we are, not from a thought or structure called ego. When we project our sense of reality onto an object, it appears as though we become many people in a real world trying to communicate.
We don’t have to destroy the ego; we just have to see that it isn’t really there. Our sense of reality never came from the ego. We just return our sense of identity to who we really are, which can be called limitless Consciousness or the Source of Love, even though it is beyond words or thoughts. Since we are undivided, here we are naturally connected in oneness.
In short, enlightenment is a journey where we start at the end. We just overlooked the place where we naturally stand and took our self to be an object. Once we begin to discover what we really are, we can easily look at our issues directly and honestly.
That's because we stand as the sun before the clouds that seem to obstruct reality and bliss. Our nature is freedom. It is a mistake to think that anything can limit this freedom. That’s why when we look honestly and without fear at limitation, we return to the freedom that we naturally are. It might help to be aware that we are the seer of limitation, not the one caught in it, because then there is no judgment and a lot of openness when taking a direct look.
There are no additional steps such as embodying Awakening. Any additional steps or higher levels would just be additional thoughts. Awakening is stepping closer than thoughts. It is taking off our assumed limitations like worn-out clothes. Standing naked we see what we really are and always have been, free of restrictions and limitations. Awakening can be expressed beautifully by expressing Love, but there is no one standing separate to express Love or to embody Awakening. The one standing separate who could take more steps is the one that disappears. Awakening is final.
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